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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:11 pm 
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They have a rough symetry for the most part, and it's kind of like the Mon Cal cruisers in that every ship is different.
:D And I'm sure you know how different looking Mon Cal ships are in Rebellion. It's easier just to make them symetrical for now.

Mabey it's something you can suggest for Rebellion 2? :wink:

And the red I'm guessing is from Iron in the rocks the ships eat.
(I wonder if those rocks are high in fiber? :? )

So far the design is rockin geddit? Rock?...yeah
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/me groans, too. That was truly terrible. Almost as bad as "A guy with a sock on his head walks into the bar. THe Bartender says 'why do you have a sock a sock on your head?' The man smiles, opens his mouth, and implodes". Like i said, terrible jokes. Though a great follow up of this is "What's crying out in agony, covered in it's own blood, and screaming "Gah! My leg! My leg! You ripped off my leg!? Answer: Someone who didn't laugh at my joke :twisted: "

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Righto . . .


Anyway, the red is . . . I got no idea, it was in the pics I was bassing it off and it looked cool, so there you go :P :roll:

As for the model(s), they're done. They look fine in game, but crap in Rebellion again - but I've got a little problem with both. When centered on them with the camera function, it actually looks off to the right of the ship and pivots around it as well.
I've tried a few things which havn't worked - so I've got another idea currently to try, and hopefully that'll fix it and then I'll release the two of 'em.

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I had an idea. Do you still have the flatter version of the cruiser? Cause if you do it can just be re-used as the Vong Carrier Analog.

I'm sorry I don't know much about modeling so I have no idea about the centering issue. I know I had problems the first few times I imported the Dominator but it went away. :)


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Problemo fixed! Not going to bore anyone with the details, but she works and is fatter than the original - you can pick her up on your way home through the model section of the website for a low, low price of 251 kbs :wink:

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HUZZAH! :D .... :) ...... :? .... 8O

I can't find it. Perhaps it has not yet been added to the model list by the host?

I can already tell from your post that it is a masterfuly done ship. (I could already tell from your other previews.)
*Stamps list of thing to collect for the mod*
[CRUISER ANALOG COMPLETE]

I hate to impose on you for so much but this should be easy(-er).
If you scale the model up 20-30% that would easily fit the Heavy Cruiser Analog. (Using this model as a base, all you would need to do is increase or decrease the scale to create almost all of the other Vong ships. )

If anyone else could do the same I'd be happy. :)

And take your time. I'm way behind schedule.


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Woops, forgot about the time it takes until you can actually download the model :oops:

Umm, our supplier is running late - shipments will be arriving soon!


As for your idea D16, it would work - but I'd prefer to make new models with new looks for each ship.
I'll have to have a look for any art work on vong stuff.
That being said, I'm flat out so that ain't hapening any time soon :roll:

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The only pictures you ever see of Vong ships are few and far between.

Corralskippers show up fairly often on the North American book covers. The only time a cruiser was on a NA cover was Onslaught. That being said the Japanese cover for onslaught was much better.
http://web.ripnet.com/~jdprosper/NJODesktop.gif

The only other time Vong ships are shown on a cover are some (poorly done) Cruisers in the Japanese part 2 of The Unifying force.
Everything else is by description, which sometimes changes per author.
I'll list off what I can.

Corvette Analog
Slightly shorter than the Corellian Corvette, this lump of coral could almost be described as blocky. Normally used for surface landings they have a mostly flat bottom.
(I know less about this class than any other.)

Frigate Analog
These oblong ships almost look like a slightly larger more rounded version of the Lancer Frigate.

Light Cruiser Analog
Essentially a Cruiser Analog that still has some growing up to do. :)

Carrier Analog
The only book I remember these actually being dscribed in was Agents of Chaos II durring the attack on Fondor.

Heavy Cruiser Analog
These ships start out big and grow even bigger. The younger ones outpower an ISDII. As they grow and take damage in battle, the hulks of smaller ships are grafted onto it. Eventually this type of growth can result in a ship like the massive 'Legacy of Torment' as seen at Ithor.
(I'm just going to have one fixed set of stats for these ships.)
Warmater Tasavong Lah commanded from a ship of this type, the Sunnlok (sp?) Which was destroyed at Coruscant.


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Your forgetting about the landing ships. Aren't those basically fairly short, boxy, lumps of Yorik Coral? Then there are the Worldships to consider... Wish I could help on these, but I'm too lazy...

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I forget nothing about the Yuuzhan Vong... I just intentionally leave stuff out sometimes to minimize confusion. :wink:

The Yorrik Trema Landing craft or "Crate" is a good sized boxy transport used to land troops in hostile environments. When it comes to landing things like a Rakamaat or setting up Damutek's the Vong bring in Corvette, Frigate or larger transport analogs.

The Crate would not work well in Rebellion as a ship type for the same reasons we don't see the Lambda class shuttles or Landing craft puting regular troops down on a planet. It would have to be designated as a fighter to fit aboard the larger cruisers, and it would need to be a ship to carry the troops.

Rebellion isn't quite that good and won't be until we get the source code. (You would need atleast 4 Crates to land 1 troop regiment.)

And the worlship would be so hard to model that I literally don't want to ask somone to do it.
http://www.swrebellion.com/forums/postt2815.html

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It actually doesn't see mlike such a hard ship to model.
I may give it a try.

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The download is now up for the Yuuzhan Vong Cruiser Analog! The Matalok! :D Wooo!!!!

*Music in the background* "Hallelujah!"

http://www.swrebellion.com/modules.php? ... it&lid=112


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The World Ship is finished. ANd i am now working on the Frigate analog.

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Nearly finished the fregate analog. Do you have any refernce or descriptions of the Heavy Cruiser Analog?

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Yay! :D

Hmm... Heavy Cruiser, heavy... cruiser... riiiight.

Honestly it's been so long now since I thought about it I can't remember.

The heavy Cruiser shouldn't be too different from the regular Cruiser Analog, it's just been "grown out" bigger. Bigger, Bulkier, um Grand-ier.
*Goes to check another thread for a second.*
Had to look at my Vong Starship Ship list to check on what ships I was using.
( Yuuzhan Vong Slayers Craft )

( Yuuzhan Vong Corvette Analog )
( Yuuzhan Vong Frigate Analog )

( Yuuzhan Vong Light Cruiser Analog )
( Yuuzhan Vong Cruiser Analog )

( Yuuzhan Vong Carrier Analog )
( Yuuzhan Vong Heavy Cruiser Analog )

The Carrier and Heavy Cruiser Analog could both be based off of essentially the same model to speed things up. They both look like larger uglier verions of the Matalok but with tons more of the coral armatures that you see on the cruiser on the Dark Tide I: Onslaught book cover.
http://www.swgalaxy.ru/books/images/eng/onslaught.jpg

On the Carrier these armatures carry the many many skips. On the Heavy Cruiser the armatures have additional plasma weapons, dovin basals, grutchin launchers, and they add armour to the ship. 8O

The Matalok masses as much as an ISD. These things must be getting close to the mass of an Alleigance SSD.

(Eventually the Heavy cruisers "grow up" to become the Grand Cruisers like the one seen at Ithor. The Grand's weren't that common in the war though so I won't be including them.)


Krytos wrote:
Ok, well I figure out my overall problems with textures and now have a working version of the EFC.
So due to bordem and the fact I can;t be bothered at the moment working on the model any more - I'll release them both tomorrow as an early version and in the future I'll attempt to remake them as a better version.
Speaking of which, I've recompiled the textures for the RSD, Vong Cruiser and Balarus with the fixed technique - and am currently thinking of what to do with them . . . get someone to test to see if they're worth while, upload a new texture pack or a new model.


You could send them to me and I'll try them out on the weekend? :D :wink: :roll:

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