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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:34 am 
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Redoing the fighter balance should be good. I would like to see more use for TF/TI etc, but cost-effectiveness they don't come close to the better fighters so no use in taking them at the moment. But it has to be done carefully not to devaluate the advanced fighters too.

Besides that, I agree with what Kob says about the time fights take.


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:00 am 
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well 4 kwings remain in the fight and offically have been the longest lasting small craft ive sent into combat. I wouldn't mind knowing the final death tally on all sides after this. 296 Claw craft, 3 Neb B's, and soon enough 27 K wing's lost. Oh btw the Kwing's decided to be big meanies to a YT2000 earlyer for some reason :P


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:23 am 
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Once I get home in a few hours I can give some list of that :)


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:01 pm 
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I've been away since last night, so I have no idea (yet) what my units have killed in that period of time. My losses, however, amount to 69 TDs.

EDIT: Woah, I just read the report for the 15 turns or so I missed... what a bloodbath!!!


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:40 pm 
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Before the K-Wings engaged the fighters I lost:
1 AW

After the K-Wings engaged I lost:
3 AW
13 EW
2 XJW

So Total is:
4 AW
13 EW
2 XJW

All of my Wing Leaders except for Osprey Leader (AW) died to :(


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:31 pm 
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Incoming spam re. losses which I detected:
Code:
Destroyed Ships:
EWING Lakonia Three
KWING Flying Fortress  15
EWING Achilles Twelve
TD Sigma 10
KWING Flying Fortress  17
TD Gamma 11
TD Gamma 5
NFRG Onto Glory
AWING Osprey Four
KWING Flying Fortress  14
KWING Flying Fortress  9
EWING Lakonia Four
KWING Flying Fortress  18
TD Sigma 6
EWING Lakonia Eleven
TD Gamma 9
TD Alpha 22
EWING Lakonia Leader
KWING Flying Fortress  7
AWING Osprey Two
TD Delta 15
AWING New AWING
TD Gamma Leader
KWING New KWING
AWING New AWING
NFRG Freelife
AWING New AWING
KWING Flying Fortress  13
AWING New AWING
EWING Achilles Three
AWING New AWING
EWING Achilles Eight
AWING New AWING
KWING Flying Fortress  12
AWING New AWING
TD Alpha 3
AWING New AWING
KWING Flying Fortress  1
AWING New AWING
EWING Lakonia Seven
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
XJWING Phalanx Leader
KWING New KWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
TD Sigma 4
KWING New KWING
AWING New AWING
KWING Flying Fortress  10
KWING Flying Fortress  5
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
TD Alpha 6
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
TD Alpha 11
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
TD Kappa 11
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
TD Sigma 11
AWING New AWING
NFRG Insight
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
AWING New AWING
KWING Flying Fortress  3
KWING New KWING
EWING Lakonia Ten
TD Alpha Leader
KWING Flying Fortress  11
KWING New KWING
AWING New AWING
TD Sigma 18
AWING Osprey Five
KWING New KWING
AWING New AWING
KWING New KWING
TD Beta 2
TD Alpha 14
EWING Achilles Leader
TD Gamma 14
KWING Flying Fortress  8
TD Gamma 17
EWING Achilles Eleven
KWING Flying Fortress  2
TD Beta 6
TD Delta 23
TD Gamma 19
KWING Flying Fortress  6
KWING New KWING
EWING Achilles Seven
TD Delta 13
KWING New KWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
KWING Flying Fortress  4
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
TD Delta 11
BWING New BWING
TD Sigma 2
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
XJWING Phalanx Nine
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
TD Alpha 9
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
TD Kappa 23
TD Sigma 3
TD Gamma 7
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 5
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 4
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 8
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 7
XG1 Gamma 2
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 6
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 11
XG1 Gamma 3
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 14
XG1 Gamma 10
XG1 Gamma 1
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 13
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
BWING New BWING
XG1 Gamma 9

Jumped Ships:
TD Gamma 19
TD Sigma 1
TD Kappa 20
TD Kappa 9
TD Gamma 7
TD Gamma 12
TD Kappa 22
TD Gamma 16
TD Kappa 14
TD Sigma 14
TD Gamma 9
TD Kappa 12
TD Gamma 20
TD Sigma 4
TD Kappa 23
TD Kappa 4
TD Gamma 15
TD Kappa 6
TD Sigma 11
TD Sigma 24
TD Kappa 2
TD Sigma 17
TD Sigma 22
TD Sigma 21
TD Sigma 12
TD Gamma 11
TD Gamma 24
TD Gamma 8
TD Kappa 10
TD Kappa 1
TD Gamma 4
TD Gamma 13
TD Gamma 22
TD Sigma 9
TD Gamma 5


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:16 pm 
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alot of TD losses at he very end


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:36 pm 
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I did notice that BWINGs were doing a nice job against TDs as well (at certain parts of the battle) but the battlefield was so full of stuff it was hard to make supportable conclusions.


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:38 am 
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The list also shows the ships jumped in that report file, which was mainly TDs.

I think the TD losses is the point where due to fuel running out - which was a problem as both myself and Kobra were not able to manage our fleet.


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:22 am 
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It does appear that with the addition of missles, the fighters are now much stronger. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to attend my fleet much in the past few days due to being very busy - hence the result of my fleet losing with minimal resistance. I believe the same goes for Kobra.

Losses/Jumps:
Code:
Destroyed Ships:
TD Kappa 23
TD Sigma 16
TD Kappa 14
TD Sigma 6
TD Sigma 10
TD Sigma 5
XG1 Gamma 14
XG1 Gamma 6
XG1 Gamma 10
XG1 Gamma 4
CRRCK Guillotine (own)
EWING Lakonia Nine
XG1 Gamma 7
XG1 Gamma 5
EWING Achilles Nine
XG1 Gamma 8
AWING Osprey Eight
XG1 Gamma 1
XJWING Phalanx Ten
EWING Lakonia Leader
AWING Osprey Leader
AWING Osprey Nine
AWING Osprey Three
MNFRG Tiger
AWING Osprey Twelve
MNFRG Speckled Hen
CLGUN New CLGUN
EWING Lakonia Twelve
XJWING Phalanx Twelve
CHGUN Comanche
EWING Achilles Six
EWING Lakonia Five
XJWING Phalanx Four
EWING Lakonia Two
XJWING Phalanx Eleven
EWING Achilles Four
XG1 New XG1
XG1 New XG1
XJWING Phalanx Five
TD Kappa 15
XG1 New XG1
CPC Cracker (own)
AWING Osprey Seven
XG1 New XG1
EWING Achilles Five
XG1 New XG1
CGUN New CGUN
CGUN Impaler (own)
XJWING Phalanx Three
XJWING Phalanx Six
XJWING Phalanx Seven
AWING Osprey Eleven
AWING Osprey Ten
EWING Lakonia Six
EWING Lakonia Eight
TD Gamma 13
TD Kappa 13
TD Gamma 15
TD Gamma 3
TD Gamma 7
TD Kappa 10
TD Kappa 7
TD Gamma 12
TD Kappa 1
TD Gamma 11
TD Gamma 21
TD Kappa 6
TD Gamma 9
TD Gamma 17
TD Kappa 4
TD Gamma 4

Jumped Ships:
LIBRTR Home Base One


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:05 pm 
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Sorry, but I have to do this:
LOST CONTACT with EIDLN Galatea at S:50100,50100 pos:5006355,5113394 (DESTROYED)

That ship survived forever! :)


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:29 pm 
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Damn you. Damn you to hell!  :'(

1 shotted by TB's as well.

And one of your ships should have been called the Lucifer. It would have been fitting.


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:43 pm 
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;D The EIDLN had to go though, I think it survived three big battles and managed to escape destruction every time.

I think the EIDLN lasted 2 cycles in that turn to go from 100% hull to destroyed. There were 144 TBs going for the EIDLN - a few died early on. Actually, due to some dock & jump order mistake there were some TBs left behind as well. :)


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:13 pm 
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We were thinking maybe PT's need their range shortening a bit. To give interceptors a bit more of a chance.


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 Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Combat Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:19 pm 
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what does everyone think about a better range for the PT.  I agree that with the current engine and immediate hits, 10km is a big advantage over interceptors.


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